It didn't improve on the one major flaw to Nolan's films

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posted by movie_nazi
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on April 24, 2022 at 1:25 PM

Which is the fight scenes. Well, let me take that back it did improve but only slightly. At least the camera was pulled back enough so you could actually see what was happening. I just don't understand why they cannot get it through their heads that Batman is a martial artist expert. So bringing in an kung fu choreographer would be ideal. A few high kicks, speed punches and broken bones never hurt a scene. Also the fact that Batman gets shot like 20 times in the movie. He never gets shot so many times. He's usually smart enough to put himself in a situation where he either uses a tool to avoid getting shot or just dodges the assailant altogether. Its seems like this director said, "Batman is super rich and can afford super ultra magically bullet proof materials to make his suit right? Alright fuck it, let him get shot." I'm not saying Batman never gets shot but it was a bit ridiculous in this film. Overall I did like the movie. My instinct is to give it 7.5 stars but I always round up. One of these days they will make a movie where Batman doesn't look like a street brawler in the fight scenes but today is not that day.

The Batman (2022) - 8 outta 10 stars

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on May 15, 2022 at 12:11 AM

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Out of curiosity, how would you rate this film vs lets say how would you rate The Dark Knight ? I actually rated this one slightly higher.

Do you care to share the points which made you rate this higher?? ....

I wanna re evaluate The Batman .... bearing your points in mind.

Let's hear it ....

I actually liked The Batman for its gritty detective story and dreary back drop extremely reminiscent of the comic book itself. It's dark, depressing and Bruce Wayne is still very much a brooding character. His gears and gadgets came off as a bit more realistic than in TDK. I also like how they have taken the source material and brought us a completely new story with Catwoman being the illegitimate daughter of gangster. I don't remember that being in the comic and I kinda liked it. I also liked how The Riddler's motive seem legit but taken to a psychopathic level. I mean, everyone has dreamed of corrupted officials and politicians getting their just due, no? Maybe it's just me. But a film that makes you sorta kinda see things from the psycho's point of view has done a good job. TDK was just "Some men just want to see the world burn" sorta lazy way of telling a story. Dd I mention that the fights scenes in TDK are friggin' terrible? 😄 I do think TDK is over rated. I haven't been on IMDb in a long time but the last time I was there it was rated in the top 10 of all time. What an absolute joke. Good film but doesn't belong in the top 100 let alone the top 10.

The Batman (2022) - 7.5 outta 10 stars

The Dark Knight (2008) - 7 outta 10 stars

I found The Dark Knight darker than .... The Batman. For once... I could imagine The Dark Knight Rises being over rated. Also, a majority making The Dark Knight 2008 over rated..... seems a little far fetched to me. I would even rate Batman Returns 1992 .... higher than The Batman 2022.

I get it .... The Batman 2022, Batman Begins 2005, The Dark Knight Rises 2012, or any other movie ...... can be called a Batman movie. But the Dark Knight 2008 is a Movie with Batman in it ..... and not just a Batman movie.

The end scene where .... Gordon and Dent have the conversation ...... Well ..... What can i say.... Class film making. The Dark Knight 2008 created such an impact on people back then..... I don't see that level of impact with The Batman 2022.

The Dark Knight 2008 is not about Action (the scenes where it does, it performs really well IMO)..... And for the Action scenes ..... you always got The Batman from BvS.

& Christian Bale is way better than the new kid from the block.... Oh yes ofc.... He can act ..... But not like Bale does.

Batman Returns 1992, Batman Begins 2005 & The Dark Knight 2008 for me..... all the way.

Yeah .... I like BvS too. Superman is awesome. There's always something with Englishmen .... that I like. A little crush .... or something like that.

I couldn't stand any of the Tim Burton Batman's. Again, terrible action sequences. I suppose for someone who never read the comics may think these non action Batman's are palatable. In the comics, Batman reads a room and plays out in his mind before he acts how he is going to take them out. "I'll sweep that guy's leg there. The guy on the right will swing from the right, I'll catch his arm and break it in time to swing around and kick the other guy in the face." etc. etc. The BvS scene in the warehouse is indeed the most true to the comic Batman fight sequence. Even the goofy show had better fights that TDK. Also, a balding, out of shape Bruce Wayne in Michael Keaton? Um, no. Physically the worst Batman. Probably worse than Adam West. Batman was so stiff in those Burton films. he looked like Batman with a bad back. At least The Batman got his detective skills down. Batman is a genius when it comes to detective work. Nothing gets by him which is why he was able to solve those riddles with ease. You got none of that with the TDK. The Nolan films are not Batman movies. They are Nolan films with Batman in them. You are right about that.

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