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I love her, but it's getting old now
posted by drjekel_mrhydeSTAFFMOD on February 17, 2019 at 11:05 AM
Every single time she has a show or movie coming out, she has to cause some media bullshiat.
Reply by CyberGhostface
on April 9, 2019 at 8:57 PM
You have no doubt whatsoever that the FBI is lying because...?
Reply by MongoLloyd
on April 10, 2019 at 8:40 PM
What FBI information are you talking about? That some random people reported hate crimes? Is there actual evidence? Witnesses? Any form of corroboration whatsoever? Arrests? Convictions? Or are these just reported incidents that are being investigated?
Reply by CyberGhostface
on April 10, 2019 at 8:57 PM
So are you assuming that the majority of reported hate crimes are faked unless they’re being committed against someone who shares your specific political ideologies?
Reply by MongoLloyd
on April 11, 2019 at 8:31 PM
HAhahaha, no. I already stated, there HAS been a rash of "hate crimes" that conveniently have been claimed by lefties who distinctly point out conservatives as the supposed perpetrators. I also believe the definition of "hate crime" has changed quite-a-bit as of late.
Reply by CyberGhostface
on April 11, 2019 at 11:26 PM
"Other than the incident in Charlottesville, almost all the actual hate crimes as of late are left-on-right crime."
Reply by MongoLloyd
on April 12, 2019 at 11:10 AM
Hayden Williams, a conservative who was recruiting for TPUSA, was assaulted (punched in the face) by Zachary Greenberg on the campus of the University of California-Berkeley in February.
Jordan Hunt kicked a pro-life demonstrator in Toronto on a city street after a brief interaction about abortion. He was charged with eight counts of assault and seven counts of mischief.
James Phillips was arrested in Bowling Green, Kentucky, after he pulled a .40 caliber on a couple for wearing “Make America Great Again” baseball caps.
Yvette Felarca, a teacher for the Berkeley Unified School District, was arrested in Los Angeles on charges of inciting and participating in a riot and assault likely to cause great bodily injury, where fourteen people suffered stab wounds, cuts and bruises, with two of the injured surviving critical stab wounds. There's video of her physically assaulting a conservative minding his own business on a street corner.
Eric Clanton, a former East Bay college philosophy professor who was charged with four counts of felony assault with a deadly weapon, causing great bodily injury, for hitting a conservative in the head with a bike lock at a free speech rally in Berkeley. He got a sentence of 3 years probation.
Dion Bews struck a conservative woman journalist at a Women's March rally in Alberta. She was awarded $3,500. after a ruling Bews was civilly liable for assault and battery against her.
These are just recent actual hate crimes I can remember off the top of my head. So if it makes you feel better, go ahead and quote these back to me.
And here's a pretty comprehensive compilation of hoax hate crimes.
Reply by CyberGhostface
on April 12, 2019 at 11:33 AM
You just proved my point for me. A COMPREHENSIVE (your words) compilation of hate crime hoaxes makes up less than half a thousand. And these are examples that range back to the 90s.
Conversely the FBI statistics lists thousands that happened in 2017 alone.
https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics
And yet you're still trying to argue that most reported hate crimes are hoaxes unless you count the ones perpetrated against people you agree with. Those are the ones you take priority in.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on April 12, 2019 at 1:30 PM
I'm not interested in dubious FBI *statistics that aren't at least accompanied by names, dates, and convictions. Can you name, off the top of your head, at least a half dozen actual people who were assaulted, specifically by conservatives as Ellen Page purports is happening? Names, dates, convictions?
*Again, do we know how the FBI classifies hate crimes? Are these supposed hate crimes merely reports of hate crimes, or actual hate crimes that culminated with convictions? Do you know, or are you content to just look at their numbers and leaving it at that?
Reply by CyberGhostface
on April 12, 2019 at 2:04 PM
What specifically makes the thousands of FBI statistics dubious in your eyes that you would dismiss them or at least deem them unreliable wholesale? First it's "Most hate crimes are either faked or against conservatives" and now it's "The reports of thousands of hate crimes to the FBI are suspect".
But if you need examples for whatever reason...
Reply by MongoLloyd
on April 12, 2019 at 7:42 PM
Just to sum up what the fu.ck I am saying so I'm clear here:
Bands of roving Trump & Pence supporters are not out on the streets looking to beat up alphabet people, emboldened by a single solitary thing either of them have said or done. It's-just-not-happening. There is ZERO proof of it in statistics or even anecdotally. In fact, with respect to politically motivated hate crime, quite the opposite is happening as I pointed out and provided some proof of.
Your examples:
Russell Courtier & his gf in Oregon. Yes, actual white supremacists exist, and have existed well before Trump & Pence. There is ZERO evidence that this guy was influenced by Trump or Pence. If you can provide a manifesto written by him, I'd love to read it.
Alan Dale Covington in SLC - Covington told Utah investigators the “Mexican Mafia” had been after him for years and that he went to Lopez Tires on Nov. 27 because “they all know each other,” Salt Lake City police said last year. Does this sound like a guy operating on a politically motivated bias, especially since he's black?
Adam W. Purinton in kansas - This is just a regular old hate crime. If you know of any impetus transferred to this guy from Trump or Pence, let me know.
Anthony Shelton and Cameron Ajiduah in Texas - This was a crime with 4 individuals involved, all of whom were black. I would think that blacks are far less tolerant of gays and alphabet people than whites, but that's another story. Again, zero evidence that these 4 guys were Trump or Pence supporters. In fact, it's highly doubtful they were.
A lesbian couple attending a recent Seattle Seahawks game endured a litany of vulgar comments from a 34-year-old Tacoma man - drunk sports fan gropes lesbian and punches her wife. I can't find a single image of Jay Dee Harp III wearing a MAGA cap.
Anti-gay subway attack leaves NYC woman with broken spine - Again, a black guy riding the subway and not wearing a MAGA cap or even American flag colors.
I never said hate crimes don't exist. They have existed before Trump, or Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan, etc. What we should be talking about here are politically motivated hate crimes as pointed out by Ellen Page in her pitiful performance on TV. Go do an image search (not with google search) for "antifa assault" for example. Take a gander at politically motivated hate crime.
Trump had 3 attempts or threats made on his life before he was even elected. People are being attacked or harassed daily just for wearing MAGA caps. Students and teachers at UC Berkeley rioted, assaulted conservatives, burned sh!t, and smashed windows merely because a gay, Jewish conservative was scheduled to speak there. A Trump campaign rally in Chicago was cancelled by police over security concerns, due to threats of violence by the left. This kind of politically motivated violence is endless and there's ample proof of it.