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Reported Problem for Season 11
posted by KILROY115STAFFMOD on February 15, 2024 at 9:11 AM
Item: Season 11
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: Dear Team, Please adjust Cheers data in season 11 episodes 23-28 as per The TVDB: https://thetvdb.com/series/cheers/seasons/official/11
On high level, episode: 23 Rebecca Gaines, Rebecca Loses (1) After Woody, Kelly and her father Lloyd arrive at Cheers talking about classical music (they'd been to a symphony), Rebecca joins in the conversation and impresses Lloyd. He invites her to a society function. Rebecca thinks it is a date and is thrilled to bits - but is in for a shock when she arrives. Meanwhile Esther Clavin has been put in a retirement home by Cliff, but whilst Cliff feels guilty, the others think he has murdered his mother.
24 Rebecca Gaines, Rebecca Loses (2) After Woody, Kelly and her father Lloyd arrive at Cheers talking about classical music (they'd been to a symphony), Rebecca joins in the conversation and impresses Lloyd. He invites her to a society function. Rebecca thinks it is a date and is thrilled to bits - but is in for a shock when she arrives. Meanwhile Esther Clavin has been put in a retirement home by Cliff, but whilst Cliff feels guilty, the others think he has murdered his mother.
25 The Guy Can't Help It Don Sentry walks into the bar and into Rebecca's life. He's the repairman called in to fix the bar tap. Although Don is not Rebecca's usual type, Frasier talks her into taking a chance when she states that someone like a Don is what she should be going after. Quickly, she falls head over heals, but Sam thinks she's settling for second best. He wants Rebecca to be his fall-back if in a couple of years he has not found "Mrs. Malone". Rebecca shoots back that he is an aging Lothario way past his prime. Frasier suggests to Sam, who is hurt by Rebecca's comments, that perhaps there is some truth to Rebecca's assertion about him and that he would benefit by group therapy for sexual compulsives. Sam does go to the meeting, and after a rough start, he does admit that perhaps he is no longer happy with his life.
26 One for the Road (1) Whilst watching the National Cable Ace Awards, the gang sees ex-waitress Diane Chambers winning the award for best writing in a mini-series. This leads to Sam calling Diane to congratulate her, and to find out that she is married and has children. Sam tells her Diane that he too has a wife and kids, and invites Diane and her husband to visit them. Sam strongly believes Diane is lying and becomes really shocked when she walks into Cheers the following day to meet Mrs Malone. Meanwhile Rebecca's boyfriend Don proposes to her and she accidently says no, ends up heartbroken and agrees to play Sam's wife to fool Diane. Sam and Rebecca have dinner with Diane and her husband, Reed Manchester. During the dinner Don arrives and proposes to her again, and this time she manages to say yes! They leave the dinner, and Sam thinks he must look like a fool. Then Diane's husband turns out to be a fake when his husband Kevin appears!
27 One for the Road (2) Whilst watching the National Cable Ace Awards, the gang sees ex-waitress Diane Chambers winning the award for best writing in a mini-series. This leads to Sam calling Diane to congratulate her, and to find out that she is married and has children. Sam tells her Diane that he too has a wife and kids, and invites Diane and her husband to visit them. Sam strongly believes Diane is lying and becomes really shocked when she walks into Cheers the following day to meet Mrs Malone. Meanwhile Rebecca's boyfriend Don proposes to her and she accidently says no, ends up heartbroken and agrees to play Sam's wife to fool Diane. Sam and Rebecca have dinner with Diane and her husband, Reed Manchester. During the dinner Don arrives and proposes to her again, and this time she manages to say yes! They leave the dinner, and Sam thinks he must look like a fool. Then Diane's husband turns out to be a fake when his husband Kevin appears!
28 One for the Road (3) Whilst watching the National Cable Ace Awards, the gang sees ex-waitress Diane Chambers winning the award for best writing in a mini-series. This leads to Sam calling Diane to congratulate her, and to find out that she is married and has children. Sam tells her Diane that he too has a wife and kids, and invites Diane and her husband to visit them. Sam strongly believes Diane is lying and becomes really shocked when she walks into Cheers the following day to meet Mrs Malone. Meanwhile Rebecca's boyfriend Don proposes to her and she accidently says no, ends up heartbroken and agrees to play Sam's wife to fool Diane. Sam and Rebecca have dinner with Diane and her husband, Reed Manchester. During the dinner Don arrives and proposes to her again, and this time she manages to say yes! They leave the dinner, and Sam thinks he must look like a fool. Then Diane's husband turns out to be a fake when his husband Kevin appears!
Reply by superboy97
on February 15, 2024 at 1:19 PM
I invite you to read this previous content report.
TVDB isn't an official source.
Reply by KILROY115
on February 15, 2024 at 2:05 PM
Yes, I agree, that they were broadcasted at once, however I own the complete Cheers series and these are totally separated episodes. All of them have their own "intro" and "outro", just like any other episode.
My media server is pulling data from themoviedb.org, but even though I have the correct number of episodes, it cannot populate the information properly.
Reply by superboy97
on February 15, 2024 at 2:21 PM
We are always going as per the original broadcast.
Reply by KILROY115
on February 15, 2024 at 2:46 PM
I'm sorry to argue, but you are not. For example the streaming platforms release their episodes on the same day, however I still see multiple episodes of them on TMDB... If what you said was true, there would be one ~400 minute long episode of The Stranger Things and there are dozens of examples...
As said, these are totally distinguishable episodes and not one episode with double or tripple length...
Please correct them, so media databases can operate properly.
Your support is much appreciated. Thank you!
Reply by superboy97
on February 15, 2024 at 3:10 PM
The criterion is not the fact that they were broadcasted on the same day, but the fact that they were advertised as one single element by the broadcaster.
The way they are released now has nothing to do with the original broadcast.
Reply by KILROY115
on February 15, 2024 at 4:00 PM
Come oooon, this is a wrong approach. The release I have is the original one. Intro, Outro, mid-break... everything is there... I'm 100% sure if there was a VHS casette with the recording of the original broadcast and would even have the ads, you would understand. I can only tell you, that my version is equal to the original. No additional cuts, nothing...
Ask around your team, do the field work. Your database should be usable to allow others to populate their videos with correct information. If you have something from 1990s, that may be historically correct, but reality is different. Your database should align with reality, not with something that may have been advertised in a certain way to catch people's eye and let them prepare for a longer stay in front of the TV screen.
I'm sure you understand what I mean. I really hope you can help me out here.
Thank you!
Reply by superboy97
on February 15, 2024 at 4:06 PM
We need to go as it was advertised by the broadcaster.
I can also quote Wikipedia, even if it's not an official source, for the final of season 11 : "The episode ran for 98 minutes, including commercials, when it was originally broadcast. This episode was rebroadcast on August 19, 1993, but was trimmed to 90 minutes. In syndicated and online reruns, this episode was split into three parts, but the DVD release has the original, uncut version. "
Reply by KILROY115
on February 15, 2024 at 4:37 PM
Okay thank you. I am convienced, but I still think this is not the right approach...