Discuss The Fabelmans

So apparently this film is about Steven Spielberg's youthful love of cinema, leading to his pursuit of the craft as a director as an adult.

It does seem to me a bit of a quaint theme for a storyline, since the physical cinema appears to be on the way out. I seriously wonder if anyone under the age of 40 will even be interested in seeing "The Fabelmans" in the theater, preferring instead to stream it, which some might consider the height of irony.

As far as I can tell, many, many more movies are released on streaming platforms nowadays, not even bothering with a theatrical release-- something-- even just 10 years ago --the big movie studios vowed they would never do: releasing a film to television prior to or even simultaneous to theatrical release. There even used to be a rule in the United States (MPAA, now I think it's just called the MPA), that no movie could be considered for Oscar contention if it did not receive a release in cinemas. No more.

Most people under the age of 40 seem to prefer watching new releases at home on a large television, or-- and this completely boggles my mind --even watching them on a two-inch smartphone screen. To be fair, even many older viewers prefer these mediums, as well, as opposed to viewing a film on a massive screen/sound system in a physical theater/cinema.

The pandemic can only take partial blame for this, as theaters were struggling pre-2020; the virus only accelerated the demise.

The film critic Leonard Maltin used to have a friend-- I read this in one of Maltin's books of film reviews-- who would proudly proclaim that he did not and had never owned a VCR back in the day, since he insisted on seeing every film in a theater. If Maltin's friend is still alive today, I am sure that he has no choice but to own a machine, or, more likely, has to stream most of the new releases he wishes to see onto his home television.

What do the users of TMDB think? My personal prediction is that within the next 10 years-- if not sooner --the physical cinemas will have died out altogether. And that a solid majority of people will not care.

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@bratface said:

@DRDMovieMusings said:

@bratface said:

Could you leave me a link to your ROI listings?

My "database" is in Excel.

I'm not a programmer and, thus, don't know how I might go about making it available online - open to suggestions :-)

In the meantime, if you have any questions, I can see if I have a numbers and, if not, your question(s) might point me in a direction to track down more numbers/stats.

Here is something that might help turn your excel spreadsheet into a sharable link? I know it can be done because an old friend from IMDb turned all of my ratings there into a spreadsheet & sent it to me in an email. Although I don't know how. Maybe the YT link I sent can help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J3fwPNCqoE

Thx! I'll try this in the morning and send you a link.

@NeoLosman said:

@bratface said:

@DRDMovieMusings said:

@bratface said:

@DRDMovieMusings said:

Hey now...wait a second...I KNOW YOU!

:-)

I'm glad someone else recognized mecha. He keeps denying it but...?

Right?! He's nothing if not both persistent and consistent. Question is, is he learning/growing?

I recognized him from his first posts as neo. And you know I don't believe he is. But that's to his detriment. I personally don't understand why he keeps coming back with new names & thinking that we will not know who it really is!

Are you all learning and growing, namely by investing in some first rate Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? Any knee-jerk emotional reaction one has to something we see written on a message board is rooted in our own thoughts and beliefs about whatever it is we read. Google it for yourselves, if you don't believe me

Don't deflect. WE don't keep getting banned.

Here are some facts:

  1. You create a user identity
  2. You write posts that get you banned
  3. You come back under a new identity
  4. Go to #2.

These facts are undisputed.

What do I conclude from this oddball cycle? Two things:

  1. You really want to be here, but
  2. Either you don't want to be here enough to change/grow enough to avoid getting repeatedly banned... or, you just can't help yourself, you either lack the sound judgment or self-restraint required to respect the rules of engagement and the rights of others to share this space.

The point is - YOU need help. Don't worry about whether any of us need CBT - we are not on this endless cycle treadmill. YOU ARE.

I remember the first time you came back, I wondered aloud whether you'd be able to hang with us and, sure enough, it didn't take long for you to cross the line again. You need to own that. That's on you.

We can have opinions and disagree and mix it up in here. Have at it. You seem either unwilling or incapable of doing that within the rules of engagement. If you want to be here, as it seems you so desparately do, you need to figure it out.

If this is the identity under which you do, splendid! As I've said before, I believe you DO have value to contribute and, as I've appealed to you before, please figure out how contribute constructively because you'd be a benefit to the site.

We all know how that ended. Alas, this punk-move deflection suggests you're not much closer to figuring it out.

You can try and turn the tables all you want, but the facts are the facts. And they are undisputed.

@NeoLosman said:

None of us on these boards is under any obligation to engage with someone if we'd prefer to do otherwise.

Agree. But that's not the reason you've been banned as many times as you have.

I'm down for getting back to discussing why The Fablemans tanked, and whether or not flicks which are less than Oscar-worthy deserve to rake in the dough at the box office

Excellent! No one is against you, we really are rooting for you. Please do your best to stick around.

@northcoast said:

What do the users of TMDB think? My personal prediction is that within the next 10 years-- if not sooner --the physical cinemas will have died out altogether. And that a solid majority of people will not care.


I don't think that physical theaters will be gone in ten years, more like 25 years, around 2050. And even then, there will still be places in the world where one can go watch a movie in a building with other people.

Aren't there still drive-in theaters?

@wonder2wonder said:

@northcoast said:

What do the users of TMDB think? My personal prediction is that within the next 10 years-- if not sooner --the physical cinemas will have died out altogether. And that a solid majority of people will not care.


I don't think that physical theaters will be gone in ten years, more like 25 years, around 2050. And even then, there will still be places in the world where one can go watch a movie in a building with other people.

Aren't there still drive-in theaters?

There are a few left but nothing like what was around from the 50s to the 70s. According to the sites in the links below, there are about 300 or so still around. There are 5 in the state I live in. The people that owned the land figured it was much more profitable to sell it to some huge company for industrial uses, apartment buildings, etc.

https://www.driveinmovie.com/united-states

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188634/number-of-us-drive-in-cinema-sites-since-1995/

@bratface said:

@wonder2wonder said:

@northcoast said:

What do the users of TMDB think? My personal prediction is that within the next 10 years-- if not sooner --the physical cinemas will have died out altogether. And that a solid majority of people will not care.


I don't think that physical theaters will be gone in ten years, more like 25 years, around 2050. And even then, there will still be places in the world where one can go watch a movie in a building with other people.

Aren't there still drive-in theaters?

There are a few left but nothing like what was around from the 50s to the 70s. According to the sites in the links below, there are about 300 or so still around. There are 5 in the state I live in. The people that owned the land figured it was much more profitable to sell it to some huge company for industrial uses, apartment buildings, etc.

https://www.driveinmovie.com/united-states

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188634/number-of-us-drive-in-cinema-sites-since-1995/


I love the drive-inn theaters. relaxed

@wonder2wonder said:

@bratface said:

@wonder2wonder said:

@northcoast said:

What do the users of TMDB think? My personal prediction is that within the next 10 years-- if not sooner --the physical cinemas will have died out altogether. And that a solid majority of people will not care.


I don't think that physical theaters will be gone in ten years, more like 25 years, around 2050. And even then, there will still be places in the world where one can go watch a movie in a building with other people.

Aren't there still drive-in theaters?

There are a few left but nothing like what was around from the 50s to the 70s. According to the sites in the links below, there are about 300 or so still around. There are 5 in the state I live in. The people that owned the land figured it was much more profitable to sell it to some huge company for industrial uses, apartment buildings, etc.

https://www.driveinmovie.com/united-states

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188634/number-of-us-drive-in-cinema-sites-since-1995/


I love the drive-inn theaters. relaxed

Me too! I'm a boomer, so drive-ins were one of the best ways to see more than one movie for just one price. Especially when a lot of them changed their pricing to one price per carload instead of charging per person.

@bratface said:

@wonder2wonder said:

I love the drive-inn theaters. relaxed

Me too! I'm a boomer, so drive-ins were one of the best ways to see more than one movie for just one price. Especially when a lot of them changed their pricing to one price per carload instead of charging per person.


No more sneaking - not that I ever did - into the theater in the car trunk. wink

@wonder2wonder said:

@bratface said:

@wonder2wonder said:

I love the drive-inn theaters. relaxed

Me too! I'm a boomer, so drive-ins were one of the best ways to see more than one movie for just one price. Especially when a lot of them changed their pricing to one price per carload instead of charging per person.


No more sneaking - not that I ever did - into the theater in the car trunk. wink

Or under a blanket on the floor of the backseat! I think they realized that having to check every car was just a waste of time. But back when we still went to a regular theater we could stay all day for one price. That's what my sister & I did on most Saturdays. Until high school, most theaters were between .25 to .75 & popcorn (with butter) was .15.

@bratface said:

@wonder2wonder said:

@bratface said:

@wonder2wonder said:

I love the drive-inn theaters. relaxed

Me too! I'm a boomer, so drive-ins were one of the best ways to see more than one movie for just one price. Especially when a lot of them changed their pricing to one price per carload instead of charging per person.


No more sneaking - not that I ever did - into the theater in the car trunk. wink

Or under a blanket on the floor of the backseat! I think they realized that having to check every car was just a waste of time. But back when we still went to a regular theater we could stay all day for one price. That's what my sister & I did on most Saturdays. Until high school, most theaters were between .25 to .75 & popcorn (with butter) was .15.


Those were good times and the popcorn popcorn tasted so much better. relaxed

@bratface said:

Here is something that might help turn your excel spreadsheet into a sharable link? I know it can be done because an old friend from IMDb turned all of my ratings there into a spreadsheet & sent it to me in an email. Although I don't know how. Maybe the YT link I sent can help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J3fwPNCqoE

I tried it, see https://drdmoviemusings.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html

The challenge is getting the window big enough to display a meaningful view of the data.

I perhaps could also/should reformat the spreadsheet to be more viewable as an embedded object.

@NeoLosman said:

@DRDMovieMusings said:

@NeoLosman said:

@bratface said:

You could only find five movies for your 'Box Shmox' list?

One is tempted to add Friday The 13th '09 to that list of so-so flicks that broke the bank the first weekend of their release. Until we recall Julianna Guill's indelibly unforgettable scene

Paying $4.86 for this kind of movie (a brand-name slasher flick) isn't stellar, but then, paying $4.86 for this kind of shlock kinda is!

Hey now...wait a second...I KNOW YOU!

:-)

Whereabouts do you reside, if you're paying $4.86 for a movie ticket, Mus? Even back in '09, no major chain that I'm aware of was charging less than $10, except on perhaps specific days of the week

When I use this term, "paying", I'm referring to what I call ReelROI(tm) that the movie generated, box office divided by production budget.

So, if a movie with a $20M production budget generates $100M at the box office, the movie "paid" $5.00 of revenue to its producers for each $1 it invested producing it.

There are more levels of math required to calculate profit distribution that demand insider knowledge I don't have, so I sought some way to simplify in order to come up with a standard by which I can measure a movie's profitability relative to others.

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