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Can anyone provide a rule that shows the correct method of determining whether a release is a stand-alone movie or a series. There have been multiple posts regarding these issues across various series.

The mods seem to be relying solely on the URL of the page where the content is first published. Is this the official rule? If so, is it documented somewhere? As a site that relies fairly heavily on user contribution, the users deserve an easy way to know how to do this prior to creating an entry that will just be deleted.

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The rule is here. I quote "For recent TV series, the best source is often its official website. We try to mirror how the episodes were first released on the original network's website. When different, the data on the official website usually trumps press releases and TV listing info."

The URL is an integral part of the official website, and if this URL indicate that the elements are in fact movies, they should be considered as movies.

@superboy97 said:

The rule is here. I quote "For recent TV series, the best source is often its official website. We try to mirror how the episodes were first released on the original network's website. When different, the data on the official website usually trumps press releases and TV listing info."

The URL is an integral part of the official website, and if this URL indicate that the elements are in fact movies, they should be considered as movies.

Yes, I understand that the URL is an integral part of the official website and I agree. It is not, however, the only integral part of the official website. Every other reference on the official website lists it as a series with seasons and episodes. TMDB seems to be taking a stance that the URL trumps anything else, even other descriptions of the content on the official website. In the case of Into the Dark, for example, Hulu lists them as movies and also refers to Into the Dark as a season of oversized episodes. So, if the official website counts it as both, why doesn't TMDB?

OK, just read through all of the content at the link provided and now am even more confused. The section of the rulebook that is being used to argue that these are movies and not episodes is in the section on adding episodes to a TV series. Why are we using a section of the TV Bible that pertains to release order of episodes as our source for this?

@azuravian said:

@superboy97 said:

The rule is here. I quote "For recent TV series, the best source is often its official website. We try to mirror how the episodes were first released on the original network's website. When different, the data on the official website usually trumps press releases and TV listing info."

The URL is an integral part of the official website, and if this URL indicate that the elements are in fact movies, they should be considered as movies.

Yes, I understand that the URL is an integral part of the official website and I agree. It is not, however, the only integral part of the official website. Every other reference on the official website lists it as a series with seasons and episodes. TMDB seems to be taking a stance that the URL trumps anything else, even other descriptions of the content on the official website. In the case of Into the Dark, for example, Hulu lists them as movies and also refers to Into the Dark as a season of oversized episodes. So, if the official website counts it as both, why doesn't TMDB?

As indicated in the rule quoted above, we should look at the page of the individual elements ("how the episodes were first released"). The fact that there are pages that grouped them under the title "Into the Dark" is not relevant.

If, for example, we look at the official Hulu page for "The Body", the fact that this is a movie is not only written in the URL, but also multiple times on the page as visible on this screenshot.

As indicated in the rule quoted above, we should look at the page of the individual elements ("how the episodes were first released"). The fact that there are pages that grouped them under the title "Into the Dark" is not relevant.

If, for example, we look at the official Hulu page for "The Body", the fact that this is a movie is not only written in the URL, but also multiple times on the page as visible on this screenshot.

  • You say we are looking at "how the episodes were first released". This seems like a tacit admission that these are episodes. They are episodes that also happen to be movies.
  • "The fact that there are pages that grouped them under the title "Into the Dark" is not relevant.": Not relevant according to what? I think it's incredibly relevant. Are all movies on Hulu grouped together and cataloged by season? This goes to the heart of my original question. Why are we ignoring everything provided by the network that doesn't align with the way they are currently set up on TMDB?

@azuravian said:

As indicated in the rule quoted above, we should look at the page of the individual elements ("how the episodes were first released"). The fact that there are pages that grouped them under the title "Into the Dark" is not relevant.

If, for example, we look at the official Hulu page for "The Body", the fact that this is a movie is not only written in the URL, but also multiple times on the page as visible on this screenshot.

  • You say we are looking at "how the episodes were first released". This seems like a tacit admission that these are episodes. They are episodes that also happen to be movies.

No this is not a tacit admission that they are episodes. They are listed at some places as episodes. So, we need to verify how they were effectively released.

  • "The fact that there are pages that grouped them under the title "Into the Dark" is not relevant.": Not relevant according to what? I think it's incredibly relevant. Are all movies on Hulu grouped together and cataloged by season? This goes to the heart of my original question. Why are we ignoring everything provided by the network that doesn't align with the way they are currently set up on TMDB?

Not relevant according to the rule, which say that we should take how the element itself was released.

When the universe collection feature will be available, we will have a mean to group them. But, in the meantime, this is not possible.

OK, thanks for the info regarding the universe collection feature. Doesn't really answer the question, but it seems like I'm not going to get an answer. Thank you for you time.

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