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Am I correct in thinking these things?

Logan had been made into a host and had been doing things Bernard told him to (among them were trying to get daddy Delos host to act right)

Delores is now in the host body of Charlotte and was the only host to actually leave Westworld to go out into the real world- which is exactly what Delores wanted.

(I am positive Mauve will be back.)

The end scene with Delores speaking to Bernard, and Delores and Charlotte going up the stairs- was that a mind thing (all in Bernards mind-like when he was talking to Ford on the beach?)

Did you guys catch the after credits scene? (Westworld pulled the old Marvel movie trick rofl )

So MIB was also a host and his daughter who was also a host had been testing him in a room the same way he had been testing James Delos?

I really enjoyed the finale-glad they gave us the extra 30 minutes. What did you think of it?

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@chrisjdel said:

Hi there. It's been a while because ... well, this place is so overrun by one particular poster that it's practically unusable.

^ Exactly this !!!!

I hesitate to mention the names of other forums for fear of breaching quarantine.

I understand- wouldn't want to infect another site.

There are a whole slew of unanswered questions left by the finale - but I'll try to lay out some possibilities.

I am glad to know that it wasn't just me face_palm_tone1 and thanks for your response.

That wasn't a host. It was the master control system's avatar. We don't know if that's really Logan's consciousness in there, or was originally based on Logan's consciousness. He talks about Logan in the third person so I get the impression he was simply given Logan's appearance and voice, perhaps originally so that James Delos would be more comfortable interacting with him.

You can already see Felix and his friend plotting to fix Maeve and get her out of there.

Yes, that one I caught.

Bernard put Dolores into that position so this wasn't exactly part of her plan. We can see she's pleased with the development though, like yes - this is perfect! She's now the number two at Delos. Assuming William survives with all his marbles and doesn't go to jail for shooting those security guys and his own daughter. Further assuming the daughter he shot is his actual daughter and not a host made to look like her, or a resurrected version in a host body. God this is getting complicated!

If we actually see Dolores-Charlotte (let's call her New Charlotte) out in the world next season it will conclusively scrap the post-apocalyptic theory that there's no world left out there. On the other hand, if several episodes go by and they're still evading the external world, we'll have to assume something like that is probably the case. But with multiple virtual worlds and one that is (we hope) actually real, as opposed to simulations within simulations, they're going to need longer seasons to follow all the separate plot threads. God this is getting complicated!

Who can say if he was really hallucinating Ford or not? Ford is perfectly capable of being like the Oracle in the Matrix films, telling people exactly what they need to hear even if it isn't true strictly speaking. But what does Ford really want? Is he as cynical about humanity as he often seems? Does he want the hosts to replace humans, or put themselves in charge, or is he really trying to maneuver the two sides toward peaceful coexistence? We don't know yet. He seems to keep flipping back and forth between benevolent visionary and mad scientist. Will the real Robert Ford please stand up?

No, Bernard wasn't imagining that conversation with Dolores. Whether they're out in the real world, away from the park at the actual physical location Ford's virtual hideaway was based on, or just back in that virtual hideaway again, we don't know.

So many questions about William. Was he really a host when he was digging into his own arm out in the desert? Or even before that? At the party before his wife committed suicide we saw him looking at his arm in that same spot, where the hosts have an I/O port. Has he been repeating the whole park experience over and over, from the time he walked onto Dolores' farm, shot Teddy, and dragged her into the barn, all the way to this moment? Or is he just reliving his descent into the Forge? That's very important. If he's been repeating the whole thing then all the other characters have been too. If it's just his elevator ride down then he's doing it all alone. We don't know how much time has passed in that scene. Except his daughter/host made to look like daughter/actual resurrected daughter in host body said it's been a long time, much longer than expected. So ... fifty years? A hundred? Five hundred?

That was one hell of a roller coaster ride, half of which you spent wondering what the hell is happening here?

Yes it was and I did, and I thank you for clearing up some of it for me.

On top of the things I already covered, what's going to happen to the Ghost Nation, Maeve's daughter, and the other hosts who went through that "dimensional rift" only they could see into the Matrix Eden? Are they stuck in a simulation running on some remote server from which they can't escape? Or distributed across the internet and potentially capable of reaching out? What is Dolores actually planning to do? What is Bernard actually planning to do? Is Ford still there somewhere? My guess on that last one would be yes. If so, what's he planning to do? God this is getting complicated! sunglasses

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Thanks!! for your explanations, they cleared up a whole lot for me , now I can re watch the episode and feel less lost.

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