Hi.

I have watched it and am editing per movie!

Same here, March 30, exactly. Using an actual copy of the movie, by the way. Netflix streaming in this case.

Regardless of what a non-official summary reads, it is a shootem up, not forensic investigation! A texas ranger is NOT a police officer! The LEGENDARY rangers did little or no forensics!

After the shooting, the Texas Rangers and FBI agents talk about forensic investigation. Their methods are indeed different regarding how investigate it and they “discuss” it in a not so polite way. Modern methods against old fashioned ones, but useful and effective.

A texas ranger is NOT a police officer!

Technically is not, of course. But is a member of a Texas law organization, is he not? Therefore, a Texas Ranger is, at least, a “lawman.”

And I am pretty sure the push here is to praise the RANGERS not the criminals like most previous movies have.

I don't get this. Please, read the overview I wrote. It is pretty clear. The rangers are indeed the good side here. A criminal gang never would be (should be) such thing. To be glorified or even almost worshiped in any way, as Bonnie and Clyde are by the general public in the movie. That is precisely the point. Personally I have nothing more to say, something different, biased or such.

And in real life and in this movie it is LADIES AUXILIARY!

The organization's name is “Ladies Auxiliary.” Therefore, a member of it is a “lady auxiliary.”

And please do not sort i almost have them PER MOVIE CREDITS!

Same here, first according to the order the main players appear in the opening credits / end credits; then the rest. I only sort when several characters are named in the same way, like “Reporter,” “Fancy Dan,” etc., in order to they appear together and numbered, not disbanded.

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I f you let me, to make things clear:

The movie runs 133 minutes, not 132. From the Contribution Bible: “The runtime should always be rounded up. A movie that is 93 minutes and 57 seconds should be entered as 94. A movie that is 94 minutes and 4 seconds should be entered as 95.”

Including the English title again in “Alternative Titles” field is obviously unnecessary.

I quoted “Ma” because is indeed a shorten nickname (mother/mommy/mom/mama), so is the right way to do it —when you write it in contexts like this one. The real person's name was “Miriam A. Ferguson” —https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_A._Ferguson. But OK, let's take it as a regular name, so “Ma Ferguson” it is.

I removed “Mystery” genre because, I think, there is no mystery here. We know who the good guys and the bad guys are from the very beginning.

Keywords: “Retired”, OK. Who? A fireman, a postman, a milkman? That's why I changed it to “retired policeman”. As you disagree, “retired lawman“ it is, if you feel fine about it. “Legendary,” OK. What or who exactly? What about “legendary hero”? “Track,” OK. What? Name or verb? A path or trail, a clue, a railway? What about “tracker”, a role our Rangers indeed performed? My point is that keywords are useful to find themes, a particular kind of movies, whatever. They must be so precise as possible —without revealing anything—, not vague, uncertain.

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I think that's all. We collaborate here, together; we are not fighting or playing a cat-and-mouse routine. Or we should not. Not you, nor me, anyone.

I apologize for any inconvenience, but be sure that is not in my mind to sabotage your work or anyone's, because I respect it. I just try to make it better, for our benefit and the site's.

Please, before doing anything else, let's wait a mod to moderate these details in order to avoid a pointless discussion.

I thank you how you've exposed your point of view regarding these matters. Thanks again and greetings.

You CANNOT rewrite the closing credits! The studio makes these decisions!
You feel obliged to rewrite closing credits?
Glad you agree retired police is out! Lawman is ok. guess if we add, why not ranger?
So you feel hiring rangers to hunt and kill and giving them files to review is a forensic investigation?
Mod has also stated stop adding keywords when an acceptable one is available
2:12:16? How does rounding 16 add? 50% and above add/below stays the same! New school or what?
Even netflix and MediaInfo claim 2h 12m.
So you wrote summary? Guess this is why TMDB prefers a studio summary! Rewrite LADIES but not Band MEMBER?
Good thing I ordered them correctly otherwise your numbering would have been off.
And it is common prectice for a studio to proclaim a title for ALL EN titles. Even seen it for a ES translation!

So I guess in your eyes netflix has summary and time wrong? And your made up ones are better? Usually let summary sllide until you proclaim you made it up! Summary is NOT a review!

Hi.

First, please don't shout. Be nice as I try to be.

In this discussion —https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/477654-museo/discuss/5c1c538c92514127f54dfa9f1 — you were in favor to use alternative names, full names, etc., but in this case apparently you are not. What will be then, this last case or the previous one?

I said there: “I rewrote the characters names in the way they exactly appear in the end credits using an actual copy of the film, as I always do. I honestly think this should be the right way to do it. By instance, where you write 'Benjamín Wilson' the end credits show just 'Wilson.' The same goes with the rest of the characters. And believe me, in many, many cases IMDb data are far from being exact or correct.”

And you answered: “Plus IMDb and original editor adds characters full name, and we remove his first name?”

Please, don't trust IMDb too much.

That being said, turns out that you weren't wrong at all about renaming characters —full name, other details— if is possible to be sure about what is correct and what is not. Plus, the mod agreed. I give you this, I was stubborn, so I recognize that this way would be the right one if you are careful making changes.

Now is the same case: to explain things better, both in the cast list and in the keywords list. So please, tell me: what do you want? A list of character names as they exactly appear in the credits or some grade of flexibility in particular cases in order to be more informative? Right now, I don't know what method you are inclined for, because it seems you use one and the opposite as they fit your purposes, meaning to be right at all cost, while I am sincerely willing to adopt others' contributions and accept they are right and I'm not.

So you feel hiring rangers to hunt and kill and giving them files to review is a forensic investigation?

You added “forensic” to the keywords list in the first place —please, take a look on the edit History (plot_keywords a
{"name"=>"forensic", "id"=>160313}). I just renamed it to “forensic science.” The point is not that you are talking about, but the opposite methods Texas Rangers and Federal Agents use. The veteran lawmen use effective old ways, the FBI agents use forensic science, and this is a matter that is discussed in the movie after the first shooting in cold blood. I think this is crystal clear.

Guess this is why TMDB prefers a studio summary!

Not true —unless moderation says otherwise. Please, don't change the overview again until a mod decide, because this is the same “sabotage” you are claiming against. The overview you added is from Netflix. The point is that the overview is completely original, not copied from IMDb or any other site. Plus, the one I wrote clearly claims exactly what you are asking for: who are the good boys and who are the criminals, no spoilers. It is the very beginning of the whole thing.

It is not too much to ask for. Be gentle and wait a mod to decide.

Nice to discuss with you. Thanks again.

So I guess in your eyes netflix has summary and time wrong? And your made up ones are better? Usually let summary sllide until you proclaim you made it up! Summary is NOT a review!

Please, read the d**** rules. I am not making up nothing. Runtime must be rounded up and overview must be exclusive because it can't be copied. If it can't be copied from IMDb, that's for sure, I infer it can't be copied at all. The overview does not tell nothing more than Netflix does, just more extensively and clearly. Of course, finally, I did not make a review. My personal opinion about the movie doesn't count at all. I liked it, by the way, a lot.

Again, be nice and stop being so aggressive. This is not a cockfight.

Thanks, again.

Hi, I locked the overview yesterday and today I locked the correct runtime (133) per our runtime rules. Official overviews are not always great and we are happy to get good rewrites.

Note that @midnightmark is correct about alternative titles (again from our rules):

The alternative title section should only be used for titles that are different from the original and translated titles. It should not be used to list all the different translations.

I locked the genres.

I think we decided internally that it's fine to adjust character names, as long as the information is correct, but I don't think that has been added to the rules.

I think the keyword changes were good.

Was there something else that I should comment on?

Hi.

Was there something else that I should comment on?

Nothing else from my side. The entry looks great.

@DaMan, I think that renaming “Ladies Auxiliary” as “Ladies Auxiliary Attendee” is a great solution, because probably players Collins Tuohy and Teddy Orr are men. I was wrong there. My mistake.

@lineker, as always, I thank you for your assistance and advice. It's priceless.

Greetings both of you.

Dude had my reply all ready! Now I have to edit.
Thanks lineker!
Guess I will just have to be more aggressive
Ignore mod advice about using official summary (shorter is better!)
To the extent of making one up like a review! Including redundant character names and adding completely incorrect "forensic investigation" and duplicating that in kwords!
Not adding kwords when an acceptable one pops. Kwords beware ;-)
I do not like making assumptions like all attendees of "LADIES AUX" are in fact female!
Yes two claim actress, but teddy might be a child/gender? hard to say.
The problem with this particular runtime is it depends on version being watched!
The final after credits production logo is @ 2:11:45 and depending on version they ADDED badly cropped screenshots of localized production and voice actors in DE/CH/ES for voice actors.
But will be more aggressive and keep in mind TMDB uses a strange logic on runtime. Like the IRS! Keep the change ;-)
And sorry if I was out of line, but lineker can confirm it is just me (and probably why I am on a couple of mods s-lists!).
Thanks