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I remember when this came out and the poster "ignored" the "stars" of the movie (Lucas Black and Lil Bow Wow..lol). Despite having some EPIC race scenes and being pure car porn, it felt like a cheap sequel and a series ender. Hard to believe they decided to go with a FOURTH and bring the stars back and is now a $5 billion dollar world wide franchise! Kudos to Universal, as an exec I woulda quit after part 3!

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This franchise is box office gold, and, yep, this movie far underperformed.

Putting box office over budget, the ROI for each installment is as follows:

  • The Fast and the Furious paid $5.45
  • 2 Fast 2 Furious paid $3.11
  • The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift paid $1.86
  • Fast & Furious paid $4.27
  • Fast Five paid $5.01
  • Fast & Furious 6 paid $4.93
  • Furious 7 paid $7.97
  • The Fate of the Furious paid $4.96
  • F9 paid $1.28 (keeping in mind that's based on international box office only, it hasn't even released in USA yet!)

To put these numbers into better general perspective, in my Movie ROI database of over 1000 titles from 1926 to present:

  • the average ROI is $4.23
  • 75% of them paid $7 or lower
  • only 10% of them paid > $15

Comparing the installments to each other themselves, note that the first one was the highest paying (it is rare for sequels to outperform the franchise original in ROI)...until F7 which was an emotional tribute to Paul Walker and would naturally have been must-see for the franchise's fans; beyond the unfortunate circumstances that caused that ROI blip, this is a solid franchise that's paid a solid $4.46 thus far (again, including incomplete final numbers from F9). If we remove F9 and F3, the franchise paid $5.10, and if we also remove F7's emotional blip, it paid $4.62.

Any way you slice it, F3 is a pox on an otherwise splendid franchise box.

This is the only one of the franchise I've seen. I can't remember why I chose to watch at it the time though. I think was because there were a couple of actors I wanted to see & BONUS, no Diesel.

@bratface said:

This is the only one of the franchise I've seen. I can't remember why I chose to watch at it the time though. I think was because there were a couple of actors I wanted to see & BONUS, no Diesel.

Vin Diesel WAS in this film.

@GusGorman said:

@bratface said:

This is the only one of the franchise I've seen. I can't remember why I chose to watch at it the time though. I think was because there were a couple of actors I wanted to see & BONUS, no Diesel.

Vin Diesel WAS in this film.

I don't remember him though. But it's been years since I've seen it

@bratface said:

@GusGorman said:

@bratface said:

This is the only one of the franchise I've seen. I can't remember why I chose to watch at it the time though. I think was because there were a couple of actors I wanted to see & BONUS, no Diesel.

Vin Diesel WAS in this film.

I don't remember him though. But it's been years since I've seen it

https://youtu.be/s7IUngG-oWY

@acontributor said:

Vin Diesel's role in this was minor. It was just a cameo.

This movie wasn't American it was Japanese and had little to do with the franchise. It was more of a spinoff than a sequel. So it's no surprise that it under performed.

Hobbs and Shaw wasn't in the list. Don't forget that one.

Hobbs and Shaw paid $3.80 - not terrible, but still lagging the average for the F&F franchise as well as the average across my database...here in TMDb, it's been put into its own collection apart from F&F. A sequel is in the works, let's see if it gets a theatrical release in which case we'll have box office to compare apples to apples.

@Damienracer said:

@bratface said:

This is the only one of the franchise I've seen. I can't remember why I chose to watch at it the time though. I think was because there were a couple of actors I wanted to see & BONUS, no Diesel.

So let me get this absolutely straight so that there's no confusion here: you started to become a connoisseur of the fine art of acting when you skipped Vin Diesel in favour of Lil Bow Wow, some BTS wannabes straight out of MTV and Lucas Black, have I got that right?

No, because of Sung Kang. How hard do you try to be an asshole? Or does it come naturally?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMvk0KqS8aQ

@bratface said:

@Damienracer said:

@bratface said:

This is the only one of the franchise I've seen. I can't remember why I chose to watch at it the time though. I think was because there were a couple of actors I wanted to see & BONUS, no Diesel.

So let me get this absolutely straight so that there's no confusion here: you started to become a connoisseur of the fine art of acting when you skipped Vin Diesel in favour of Lil Bow Wow, some BTS wannabes straight out of MTV and Lucas Black, have I got that right?

No, because of Sung Kang. How hard do you try to be an asshole? Or does it come naturally?

I'm quite willing to bet that I was neither the first to put Damienracer on blocklist nor the last. Most of the people I've blocked have since either been suspended or had their account deleted altogether, so I'm confident it was the right move in this case as well.

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