@komrad said:

@Poetist said:

Why did she shoot Kai?

Did she get hauled off to jail?

OK, apparently everyone got their wires crossed even worse than mine did

Lemme clear this up a bit for y'all:

1) Kai killed a follower who made the same tattoos he had and mangled his face to fake his death in prison.

2) He walks out of prison in guard uniform with the help of a guard who is also a follower.

3) He makes it to the political debate Sarah Paulson is having with a current senator on TV no less.

4) He walks up to the stage to humiliate Sarah Paulson and shoot her.

5) His gun isn't loaded b/c his follower betrayed him and it was a ruse to get him there.

6) Sarah Paulson mocks him in front of everyone then Black lady reporter approaches Kai from behind and blows his brains out.

7) Kai is dead. The END.

Thanks for clearing things up, but that is an odd ending. There was nothing more? Why would he have it out for Sarah's character, and how did he end up in jail?

@Poetist said:

@komrad said:

@Poetist said:

Why did she shoot Kai?

Did she get hauled off to jail?

OK, apparently everyone got their wires crossed even worse than mine did

Lemme clear this up a bit for y'all:

1) Kai killed a follower who made the same tattoos he had and mangled his face to fake his death in prison.

2) He walks out of prison in guard uniform with the help of a guard who is also a follower.

3) He makes it to the political debate Sarah Paulson is having with a current senator on TV no less.

4) He walks up to the stage to humiliate Sarah Paulson and shoot her.

5) His gun isn't loaded b/c his follower betrayed him and it was a ruse to get him there.

6) Sarah Paulson mocks him in front of everyone then Black lady reporter approaches Kai from behind and blows his brains out.

7) Kai is dead. The END.

Thanks for clearing things up, but that is an odd ending. There was nothing more? Why would he have it out for Sarah's character, and how did he end up in jail?

He ended up in jail b/c Sarah Paulson was working with the Feds and ratted him out. He spent almost a year in prison building his cult (again) while Sarah Paulson went Political and decided to run for Senate.

The show didn't end with Kai's death obviously, it ends with Sarah Paulson getting ready to a meeting with very powerful people (mostly women probably) and putting on a dark green cloak in front of a mirror. Guessing she either started her own cult or joined an existing one.

@komrad said:

Thanks for clearing things up, but that is an odd ending. There was nothing more? Why would he have it out for Sarah's character, and how did he end up in jail?

He ended up in jail b/c Sarah Paulson was working with the Feds and ratted him out. He spent almost a year in prison building his cult (again) while Sarah Paulson went Political and decided to run for Senate.

The show didn't end with Kai's death obviously, it ends with Sarah Paulson getting ready to a meeting with very powerful people (mostly women probably) and putting on a dark green cloak in front of a mirror. Guessing she either started her own cult or joined an existing one.

Thanks for filling in the gaps and being brave enough to see this one out. This series has been the first I didn't finish, because I learned through Hotel that it doesn't get any better, if it is all over the place.

@komrad said:

OK, apparently everyone got their wires crossed even worse than mine did

Lemme clear this up a bit for y'all:

1) Kai killed a follower who made the same tattoos he had and mangled his face to fake his death in prison.

2) He walks out of prison in guard uniform with the help of a guard who is also a follower.

3) He makes it to the political debate Sarah Paulson is having with a current senator on TV no less.

4) He walks up to the stage to humiliate Sarah Paulson and shoot her.

5) His gun isn't loaded b/c his follower betrayed him and it was a ruse to get him there.

6) Sarah Paulson mocks him in front of everyone then Black lady reporter approaches Kai from behind and blows his brains out.

7) Kai is dead. The END.

Thanks for spelling it all out.. My wires didn't get crossed I was just attempting to tell a very short version of that .

@Poetist said:

With all the success of Roanoke did for the show to keep this train going, Cult just squashed that and the ratings tanked. I think I might watch one more episode and make the call from there.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-cable-ratings-sept-5-2017/

It stunk and I hated this season. Worst so far, besides Hotel, which I could only make two episodes. God awful Gaga.

@komrad said:

@Poetist said:

@komrad said:

@Poetist said:

Why did she shoot Kai?

Did she get hauled off to jail?

OK, apparently everyone got their wires crossed even worse than mine did

Lemme clear this up a bit for y'all:

1) Kai killed a follower who made the same tattoos he had and mangled his face to fake his death in prison.

2) He walks out of prison in guard uniform with the help of a guard who is also a follower.

3) He makes it to the political debate Sarah Paulson is having with a current senator on TV no less.

4) He walks up to the stage to humiliate Sarah Paulson and shoot her.

5) His gun isn't loaded b/c his follower betrayed him and it was a ruse to get him there.

6) Sarah Paulson mocks him in front of everyone then Black lady reporter approaches Kai from behind and blows his brains out.

7) Kai is dead. The END.

Thanks for clearing things up, but that is an odd ending. There was nothing more? Why would he have it out for Sarah's character, and how did he end up in jail?

He ended up in jail b/c Sarah Paulson was working with the Feds and ratted him out. He spent almost a year in prison building his cult (again) while Sarah Paulson went Political and decided to run for Senate.

The show didn't end with Kai's death obviously, it ends with Sarah Paulson getting ready to a meeting with very powerful people (mostly women probably) and putting on a dark green cloak in front of a mirror. Guessing she either started her own cult or joined an existing one.

Probably The Group that Lena Dunham started

@PANDJY said:

@Poetist said:

@PANDJY said:

1. Clowns are one of the REOCCURING themes .... yes. because everyone is afraid of clowns ... right? I know they freak me out
2. I swear I saw that outdoor sex scene in front of the clown before on AH ..... You did, in Freak Show but took place in the 50's or 60's
3. The political stuff was basic and Murphy needs to stay in his lane .... I do agree. If this whole season is POTUS driven it will get old fast.
4. The nanny was sad about Trump and yet wants to ruin the liberal couple's child psyche .... I took it as she lost a bet with her brother.
5. The DANG panic attacks. .... I'm wondering if it is a PSTD situation - it's the only reason I can think as an excuse for the EXTREME of it.
6. The DANG "hallucinations!" ... I don't understand why the kid would see the same figures in his hallucination as she did in hers. I can only imagine that the brother (Even Peters) set out,in disguise, to kill the neighbors ... but then I question the supermarket.

There is just too much going on, and it leaves the audience with nothing to understand. I mean seriously we need a foundation of facts. I'm getting tired of everything and the kitchen sink thrown at us like they did during Hotel.

I agree with you - it is the kitchen sink. Two people I know in real life aren't thrilled with it either. I hope it gets better - I will keep watching because I have to see how it plays out. I just hope it becomes entertaining.

I watched till the end, sadly, didn't get entertaining. Tired of Kai and the political sh*t.

@ScorpionQ2 said:

@Poetist said:

Hopefully, the next season will be better.

That is exactly what I said last season ... and it's worse...which I didn't think was possible.

Hah!! so true - but Hotel was my "didn't finish"

@lennonforever said:

@ScorpionQ2 said:

@Poetist said:

Hopefully, the next season will be better.

That is exactly what I said last season ... and it's worse...which I didn't think was possible.

Hah!! so true - but Hotel was my "didn't finish"

Good for you that you didn't finish Hotel. I got sucked into the swindle, because I was wondering about the kids.

Someone mentioned this could link into "Coven" but Ally is not a witch nor are any of her followers (that we know of) so I do not see that happening. Also the witches were not anti-men.

I hope it rebounds with a super terrific season; but part of me wants it to just end. As for "Hotel" and it's hook, mine was two fold... Evan Peters especially when I read he was purposely channeling 20's-40's top actor William Powell, and the Valentino being a vampire subplot. Still, the vamps were so darn un-vampy it was sad. Normal in every way but disease and aging. Reminded me of the character in "The Hunger". Immortal but could be killed or injured like a normal person. Give me the quick as lightening, turn into bats\mist\wolves, toss people across rooms vamps any day!

@Oldnewbie said:

Evan Peters especially when I read he was purposely channeling 20's-40's top actor William Powell, and the Valentino being a vampire subplot.

That's the only thing that worked, because you would never know it was Evan.

Still, the vamps were so darn un-vampy it was sad. Normal in every way but disease and aging. Reminded me of the character in "The Hunger". Immortal but could be killed or injured like a normal person. Give me the quick as lightening, turn into bats\mist\wolves, toss people across rooms vamps any day!

I know. It was a mixed bag. You had ghosts and I was wondering why weren't they vampires. Then, there were vamps starving -- after decades -- sealed up behind a wall. Then, the gang of elementary aged children, who were on a rampage that was dropped and picked up at the end of the series.

@lennonforever said:

@komrad said:

The show didn't end with Kai's death obviously, it ends with Sarah Paulson getting ready to a meeting with very powerful people (mostly women probably) and putting on a dark green cloak in front of a mirror. Guessing she either started her own cult or joined an existing one.

Probably The Group that Lena Dunham started

Yes, I think that was the implication. She literally killed off the last of the SCUM movement by shooting Babbitt dead, then assumed the leadership. I felt we pretty much knew after the first or second episode that Ally would become a cult leader herself by the end. It's the predictable twist as this show moves ever closer to Shyamalan territory.

My favorite part of the series was the Valerie Solanis / SCUM episode. It really didn't make too much sense if you think about it, but it was one helluva an idea conflating with the Zodiac and I wish they had carried it through to Berkowitz and beyond. And while I can't stand Lena Dunham, she did do a decent job. She's no Lily Taylor, but acceptable.