@Invidia said:

Here's one of the PATTERNS that we might be HEADING FOR (which was also already explained over on your other NEW TOPIC):

@Invidia said:

It looks like we might be heading for a CONFRONTATION of some kind

I think any minor confrontations like this are allusions to the overall conflict. Unless you are claiming that these small injustices are the point of the entire program.

Do you remember the scene where he PUNCHES the HOLE into the WALL behind the BAR TENDER and takes a PINK PACKAGE out of it???

Your point about his ability is well made, but I think, if I recall correctly, it was a bit of a "false wall" in that he taps around for a minute to find the magic spot, then punches the wall. BTW, when asked about the package, he said something like "Well, technically it's cheating, but now the rules have changed." So the package I would surmise has something to do with tech/the code.

Sorry about not being SUCCINCT enough.

Yeah, that was not succinct, and I'm not a huge fan of cross-topic quote-posts, but I understand.

And we've also seen the FLASHBACK that shows the WIFE of the MIB in a BLODDY BATHTUB.... Because people also don't usually BLEED from a DRUG OVERDOSE.

Right. So are you saying there is a major theme crossed over from the "real" world to West World related to his marriage/worklife/relationship? I understand there are practical implications, but in this topic I was speaking more to the philosophical allusions the authors of the show Westworld are using, not so much specific details in the storyline.

@Invidia said:

And this season DOLORES also shows TEDDY his PAST HISTORY in hopes that doing so will also ENLIGHTEN him to what's in his best interest. But when that attempt FAILS, she also makes changes to his PERSONALITY as a way to protect him and make him stronger against the HUMAN ENEMY.

I'm not sure you can say it was to protect him, but perhaps to protect them. The direct allegory she uses to explain what she was about to do was burning down the barn of diseased animals, destroying them but also the weakness. So with that in mind, she didn't make Teddy stronger, but rather she destroyed him. Hence the repeated tension she sees when he acts in this new "non-weak" way.

So my guess would be the MIB is already a HUMAN/HYBRID being by that point.

I thought that too, and the possibility can't be ruled out, but they have played it pretty straight that he's just a tough old human.

DOLORES told TEDDY that she had to DESTROY the OTHER WORLD OUTSIDE of WW in order to SECURE her WORLD. Otherwise they'd never be SAFE from them, and it would do them no good to try and find a CORNER of WW to inhabit the way TEDDY suggested they do.

Again, I'm not sure if Dolores' ultimate intent is to destroy the outside world, so she can return to WW, but rather to dominate the outside world. The implication that has been quite evident throughout this season, is that the robots are the new superior evolution of humankind. Also, let's not forget her amazement at the beauty of the modern world during her missions there. I believe the quote was something like "If I lived here I would never leave."

Because that's what the HOSTS are there for ... to COPY ... or MIRROR ... and REFLECT back to you a portrait of yourself.

Back in Season one Logan also told WILLIAM that's what he was there in the PARK for when he said the PURPOSE of being there was to find out WHO YOU ARE.

Well, of course the irony of the season 1 quote was that the park visitors thought that they were finding out who they were, when in reality the company was finding out who they were (or we, as in the human race are). I don't think the robot's job was to mirror human behavior (although you have made a good case for that), but rather to present something for the humans to mold their true intentions against. So basically, visitors have a clean slate, and can be who they "truly are" in WW, and their decisions as they press against the robots demonstrate their most fundamental desires. To my mind it's like a negative casting in the process of creating a mold. This is verified by the company's attempts to then fill this mold with hybrid beings.

And isn't it also CREEPY how the YOUNG GIRL seems to have more WISDOM than the OLD MAN does???

If by "young girl" you mean Lawrence's daughter, I am pretty sure that was actually Ford interrupting or taking over her character to talk with the Man in Black...hence her wisdom.