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OK, from all I could read about this, I don't see more than 38 episodes mentioned. IMDB only shows 13 episodes, so it must not be up to date.

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Yeah, Turkey is not a strict Muslim country, it's more westernized. They don't go by Sharia law there. So the drinking doesn't get you killed. But Saudi Arabia has some fundamentalists running things, not the Royals, but the majority of the country. They will behead or stone women to death for adultery, which might actually be rape. So an unlucky woman might get raped, and then killed for adultery since she had sex outside of marriage.

I would never want to go to one of those strict Muslim countries. Some of those inbred jihadis know just a little bit of English; "CIA". If you're an American, they figure that's what you are, and you're fair game.

Good idea about Harun. But as soon as he got some food in hand, he would start right back the same as before. So there would need to be a mechanism for snatching his food away the instant he began shouting and accusing, etc. And the way he grabs and holds onto food, I'm betting you would need a stun gun to get it away from him. I would love to see that. Harun gets his hands on a pastry and thinks "now I'll tell those bastards what I think of them" and starts shouting as he brings the food up toward his mouth. Then ZAP, he is temp. debilitated, the food is confiscated, and he recovers to find it is gone. His stomach juices were already flowing in anticipation of his meal, and he was imagining how great it would taste. And then it was taken away in that instant. LOL. He would shout and rant and scream. And a voice would calmly explain that he would go without food for two more days due to the outburst. He could have water, and a multivitamin.

He only knows how to be a jackass. So it could take months before he changed. He would be a skinny guy when he finally got out and began to eat again.

He thinks being a cop means shouting and slapping people. He enjoys being able to have authority over people. He is precisely the wrong sort of person to be a police officer. He will abuse that power because it feels good to him to do it. He will abuse it further when he feels frustrated at not getting something he wants. He abuses friends who are supporting and helping him. He would never pass a psych exam in real life.

2 Episode 12 halfway again.

Sule doesn't give a flip what Behzat tells her to do. She left a note saying she is improving neighbor relations, this after he told her not to hang around former Fatma's husband, Tayya. He has been behaving up to now. Uh oh, he is a perv. He is drugging her beer now. But Behzat came over in time so she didn't drink it. I have a feeling Tayya is going to wind up getting his face smashed in. Tayya just put a pistol in the belt of his pants after Behzat put his forearm against his neck. So he is a brave rapist, not what I would expect. They are tough with women, not so much against men.

whoops, another murder. second one this episode. One thing Harun is good for is running down suspects. At least he has a useful function sometimes. You can tell I have been getting tired of Harun. I have to turn the sound way down.

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I feel sorry for women in Muslim countries. Huran is all over his sister, afraid she has talked to a guy and he may have complimented her. Can you imagine having a functional retard of a brother who has authority over your life like that? He is free to slap you across the face is he thinks you may have thought about talking to a guy, and you're supposed to accept that. Now he has his sister in an interrogation room because he walked up behind her at the police station as she spoke to a cop at the desk. He is talking around the food in his mouth again. She actually reached out to take his bag of chips away and he reflexively pulled it back from her reach. lol, You have to be pretty fast to get some food away from that clodhopper. Because of the culture his sister has to humor him and treat him as if he isn't hypocritical as hell, as though he is mature enough to make responsible decisions, etc. There have been studies on the IQ in Muslim countries, and I think it is about 15 points on average less than in western countries, and this is attributed to the custom of allowing inbreeding. Uncles can legally marry their nieces, for example. So these functional retards with anger issues run around trying to get laid on the one hand, and beating their sisters to keep them from talking to boys on the other. This is Huran. I watch him sitting there pretending to be an adult, mumbling around his food, interrogating and instructing his sister. It is so absurd it would be funny if this didn't reflect real life.

You won't guess who Huran's sister just met and has the hots for.

Oh yes I will !! It's he of the 70's hairstyle. I just saw it!!. It's makes you wonder how Muslim women ever get to meet a guy and marry him. Surely not all marriages are arranged. Harun continues to annoy - he really shouldn't wear those tee shirts - they show up his man boobs too much - he is very young to have those. It was all a bit of an anti-climax with Tayyaa - who lied about his age because according to his tombstone he is 42 years old - and you thought he was lying about being 47 !! Sule - yet again - was the cause of bringing trouble to him as she told Tayya about his brother. Eda is now trying to investigate a psychopath celebrity on her own - he is baiting the police and sends a bottle of champagne over to their table - this infuriates Behzat for some reason and he breaks the bottle and lunges for him - how does this guy keep his job? He is just as much a psycho as the people he pursues. He seems to have stopped searching for all the bearded men in Turkey and that plot line seems to be dormant at the moment. Vulture continues to make either obvious (she was hit by a pointed metal object) or wildly inaccurate statements (he didn't go down without a fight) oh yes he did - he was shot from behind and went down immediately. I think Harun should have a gastric band fitted - that way he couldn't eat more than two peanuts at a time without busting a gut. It's not surprising so many Muslims want to live in Westernised countries - and yet they call us infidels - such hypocrites.

man boobs and an early beer gut. The hops in beer has estrogenic properties which fattens the boys up and depresses their sex drive. Who knows what else that idiot consumes, junk food ad nauseum, and about anything else edible which passes near him.

Yes, I was wrong about Tayya. He wasn't a pervert after all. I guess he was planning on kidnapping Sule. And you're right; her insistence on going against Behzat keeps causing problems for him. I am watching the last few minutes of episode 13 now. Waiting to see the gay guy get busted for murder. I am assuming he is gay from the way he talked to the victim after he killed him. But they didn't bust him in ep 13. Now he is after the under secretary's wife. Fatma's husband is dead now. At least he wasn't so lazy in this one.

Selim has turned out to be more of a heel than previously shown. Ghost is the best one of the group from what I can see.

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They keep showing us that coffee machine. I am betting that thing is bugged and what's his name is keeping up with their investigations to see if anything points back at him. .

What you say about hops explains a lot about my past life!! I don't think Selim is a heel - (she said naively!) I think men and women can be friends without benefits. I had such a male friend many years ago - we were more like playmates than anything else - he made me laugh - I still miss him - his wife was a jealous little midget and made sure they moved away as soon as they were married. No - the girl may well be a friend - if she was more than that he wouldn't hold out hopes of Eda forgiving him - he seems to care about her genuinely. Ghost seems to be a good guy - but he is also being a bit foolish in sleeping over in a married woman's house and bringing her food and giving her money. You can see that the neighbours are already starting to gossip about her and pretty soon - given their full muslim garb they will be shunning her. He obviously likes her - but he is putting her in social danger. He should encourage her to get a divorce and then make his play. I am getting irritated with the constant plays on tea and coffee. Did you see Harun in that posh restaurant asking for tea and biscuits - the latter of which he threw into his mouth wholesale. It seems you can take him anywhere twice - the second time to apologise. He is such a piggish eater as well - that is something I detest - I cannot sit at the same table as a piggish eater. Now Gonul (GONUL!!) is back on the scene and she looks more blowsy than ever and is evidently after Behzat again - he knows Esra (the prosecutor lady) likes him so why is he messing about with that old crow? Have you noticed the way they dance in that nightclub - arms out - sway to the right - sway to the left -do it again and again. Doesn't take much to learn !! I never have the sound on so I don't know if she has a nice voice or not. I don't know if you have seen the Brit version of Get Carter with Michael Caine (I love that film - everything about it is so right) because in it there was a scene in a pub in Newcastle (rough working man's club) and there is a woman singing on the stage (Queenie Watts) and she is in her sixties I would say with dull, dyed jet black hair, brilliant blue eyeshadow and scarlet lipstick - she is plump and she has a really common voice - she sings "How about you?" to the men and sits on their knees and she pulls one eye down in a gesture I still don't really understand the meaning of - anyway - that's who GONUL!! reminds me of.

Quick update - that coffee machine - you clever devil you - I would never have thought of that!! Do you suppose he picked that up from watching "The Americans" !!

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Why do they have so many male characters who completely lose it emotionally? Harun, Behzat from time to time, his brother, and many others have fits. I don't think any of the women lost their minds the way these guys do. Are we supposed to think it makes them tough guys somehow? Because to me, it makes them look weak, immature, and childish. It's not just this show either. That cop in Glitch was awful about this. I see it in a lot of shows these days. It is bizarre. They act like clowns, or insane people, or wimpy girly men.

Not only do these guys have vein popping fits, they act like they are victims. They think that if they get really angry at someone, the prosecutor should throw them in jail. And when she tells them they have no evidence of any law they have broken, Behzat yells that she won't support him and put away bad guys. And he has another fit. So how is Behzat supposed to be such a great detective? He acts like he doesn't know how to build a case; he acts like he can't understand that the prosecutor must go by the law in order to put someone away. He acts like he can beat the hell out of whomever he pleases if he thinks they might be guilty of something, or even if he thinks they might have seen something. We are watching the petulant homicide bureau. "Bring me some solid evidence and I'll do something" she tells him for the umpteenth time, a message he never seems to understand. They still have not found the bug in the coffee machine. But Behzat lost it and destroyed the machine, and slapped Harun for not getting rid of it as he was told earlier. So the bug is gone now.

I've had to completely mute the sound as you do. I can't stand hearing the screaming and yelling, and the BEEP everytime someone curses in Turkish.

There seems to be a lag time from when you post a comment and when I see it here. Or perhaps I need to refresh my screen more often, something like that. I notice from the time stamps that you have posted before I put my second response, but I don't see it until after I have posted.

I am taking a break from Behzat this morning. I need to do some things on the computer and can't watch something that requires reading the translations. will let you get ahead again and then catch back up with you.

I tend to watch Behzat in the early evening when there is nothing else on. Television over here is mostly repeats - some over 30 years old - or reality or talent shows - all cheap entertainment that I can't tolerate. I watch a lot of quiz shows and stuff like American and Australian MasterChef - I am not too keen on the American version - it pits people against each other in the nastiest of ways - they are encouraged to chuck each other under a bus for the sake of entertainment - the Australian version is not at all like that. Maybe the time lapse is something to do with our recent setting the clocks back which we do twice a year - Spring forward an hour - fall back. Do you do that? It never occurred to me to wonder if we are the only ones to do this. Are you still watching "The Blacklist" - I was so glad when Red got out of prison - but the lies seem to be continuing and now he has tracked down Katerina who seems to be a bit of a baitch - I don't understand how he could love such a person - he has paid the price though - red has gone red again.

We call it "Daylight Savings Time" when we change the clocks and we use the same phrase, fall back, spring forward. I am thinking it must have something to do with how often I refresh the page. I have a tendency to leave the page open and look for the little red indicator that there has been a new post on a threat I am in. On the other hand, sometimes email doesn't post right away when someone sends it, but the delay is rarely very long. So I think it is the issue of refreshing the page. I think it does this itself eventually, on a schedule. I've refreshed the page before and then noticed that symbol appear. So that must be it.

Is The Blacklist back on? Frankly I rarely watch the regular TV anymore. I watch tennis tournaments and sometimes other sporting events. Every so often I check to see if one of the shows I like has aired; I set them to record the ones I like. My service has an "on demand" function. With some of the shows I can ff through commercials that way. I will have to check up on regular TV and see what I have missed. The last I saw of Red he had gone to Paris when he learned that Katarina was still alive. He told her 'its' not safe" and she injected him with something, he passed out on the sidewalk, and a van pulled up, men hopped out and dragged him inside, and the van sped away. So don't tell me anything after that.

It's Ok - I don't know anything after that!! I wondered if you did. I am still watching Behzat - and I am beginning to feel like I am having hallucinations again. I am sure I saw Ghost find Feride's husband and ask him why he didn't return to her - he replied that he would only get drunk and beat her again. Now her husband has been found (I don't know what else to say in case you have not seen this episode (15) )but it is completely not in keeping with what I have just described. I don't know where they get these actors but there was a girl "dead" in a bath - and they focus on her face and her eyes are noticeably twitching. Bahaar and her bunch of lefty loonies are in trouble again - I mean they KNOW what is going to happen every time they try to make statements on the street so why not take a film crew along with them. Sule continues to annoy as she wears ridiculous shoes and hops like a rabbit about the place. Miracle of miracles - I am halfway through the episode and Harun has not eaten anything yet - although he was noticeably drooling over a model who had had a wardrobe malfunction on stage - even though she was fully dressed when he interviewed her his eyes never left her boobs. Then he asks Behzat to interview her because he couldn't because "she was depressed about Ankara". A lot of things they say make no sense and I am wondering if it is down to the translation or just a writer's sense of humour. It certainly amuses me how when you see any portion of intimate personal flesh it is pixeled out - and yet four letter words of the coarsest variety are used indiscriminately. I wanted to ask you as a matter of interest if you had ever heard of an incident in the first world war where a battalion of British soldiers (most from the same village) had disappeared without trace after entering a valley that had no exit in Turkey - I may be wrong about the venue but they were fighting Turks. The theory was that the Turks had ambushed them and massacred them and buried their remains because the Turks it appears did not take prisoners. They were never seen again.

I recall Ghost talking to the husband and him saying he was a drunk and would be no good to his wife. He also said he had heard there was a man who was interested in his wife and he wanted to punish him. That is the last I recall about the husband. Ghost has left groceries for the wife since then, and also has met with her, but there is nothing happening romantically between them, at least up to that time. The leftist leaning just seems like a huge change in Bahar. It's a good thing she didn't accept the proposal. In the long run, how could she have gotten along with him?

I never heard of that incident with the battalion of British soldiers missing in Turkey. I know that TE Lawrence and his forces came upon a village which had been massacred by the retreating Ottoman forces. It was putatively done to demoralize the British troops. But it seemed to have the opposite effect. Lawrence was enraged by the genocide, pregnant women, children, everyone was slaughtered and in the worst way. He ordered, for the first time apparently, no prisoners to be taken. They shot the wounded they passed as they pursued the Turks instead of giving them aide. I also recall hearing that of the more than 100,000 dead (from both sides) on the peninsula of Gallipoli a great many were not identified or recovered. It was a horrible bloody mess. Churchill had pushed for opening the front through Turkey and was forced out of office after that. He switched and became a soldier for a couple of years, then went back into politics.

The Turks are quite capable of massacring people. The Muslims massacred 18% of their population, 3 to 4 miilion people, all Christians, over 30 years between 1894 and 1924.

I am watching The Blacklist now, catching up on that. But I won't say anything at all about it yet. You can hopefully catch up on it somehow as well.

By the way, I am into the second episode of Season 7 of The Blacklist. I know things change in these shows but the way it stands I would kill Katarina Rostova. She is nothing like the lady they showed us in earlier seasons.

Also, how is it that the FBI can storm a building and fail to cover all exit points? We see that happen over and over in this and other shows.

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